Sit Means Sit dog trainer Ashton Fitz-Gerald decided to use this target exercise with his puppy, however instead of using a traditional dog training clicker, he uses a Sit Means Sit dog training collar. This dog training videos main purpose is to demonstrate how training tools are neither positive nor negative by nature. The common perception of electronic dog training collars is that they are negative and not a good training option because you are teaching the dog to do something to avoid getting shocked.
This approach to dog training with a remote electronic dog training collar may have been true before Sit Means Sit came along, but it certainly isnt the case anymore. In this puppy training video, you will see the Sit Means Sit dog training collar is being used only when the puppy is touching the target stick. If the Sit Means Sit dog training collar was causing pain to the puppy, or he felt the need to avoid touching the stick because he didnt like what happened when he touched it, you would certainly see signs of avoidance. The puppy would not want to go back to the stick time and time again.
The adjustable nature of todays modern electronic dog training collars such as the Sit Means Sit dog training collar means that the levels can be adjusted so variably that the steps between each level as very small and virtually undetectable from one to the next. We even took this video a step further and demonstrated that even when the Sit Means Sit dog training collar is set to the highest level, the puppy in the dog training video does not avoid touching the stick. Dont believe us? See for yourself. Wed also recommend downloading our free report on the technology behind modern electronic dog training devices. Go to: http://www.sitmeanssit.com/dog-training-articles/dog-training-article-the-facts-about-modern-electronic-training-devices/
Information on the Sit Means Sit dog collar can be found at http://www.sitmeanssit.com
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@fredhassen I must …
@fredhassen I must have missed the segment you are referring to in the vet video on using elec-stim for medical use for muscles. When I had to do that for my back, I was told NOT to move at all or it can cause serious damage.
@sitstayandplay …
@sitstayandplay There is a Vet video above in the ‘video responses’.
@fenrirk9 I have …
@fenrirk9 I have added a dog park video
link to this video as well, so you can also watch
this puppy under the most extreme distraction of a
dog park. I think it’s important to see how a training
style works in a distracting environment as well.
@fredhassen What I …
@fredhassen What I am saying about the physical side effect of forcing muscles to contract, even if it’s slight, is it can effect training and muscle memory. Also, elec-stim for medical reasons can cause damage too. I’m no vet (so a vet should comment). I’d love to see data that has been done measuring just latency and speed with this collar vs actual clicker training. (Since they are being compared) Sorry to say, but I’d bet $10,000 that clicker training would weigh in far better results.
@sitstayandplay Not …
@sitstayandplay Not sure what you are trying to say.
Muscle stimulators have been around for years like Chiropractors
tens units, and they are used to alleviate pain, not to cause it.
Google ‘Muscle Stimulators’ for more info.
You have nice training videos also, and it’s good that you are happy with
your training and making dogs better for people also. We also like to watch
the videos of the people responding, and thanks for stopping by to check us out!
Oh no. A “real …
Oh no. A “real clicker” is way more effective. And if this company is honestly using the collar only as an event marker (like they’re selling) and not as a punishment, then there should be no “what if” anything and no difference about using a real clicker should there….
@sitstayandplay So …
@sitstayandplay So what happens when you throw a distraction in there, like 2 barking dogs? Will the clicker be just as effective as the collar?
I second what …
I second what brdrterr91 said. I’d rather spend $1.00 on a clicker. I’d rather use something that doesn’t physically effect my dog’s muscles. I’d rather teach by a harmless sound than a tolerance to shock. You do know that’s the same concept that keeps people in bad relationships don’t you? They put up with the “ugh” to get something good.
basically you are …
basically you are teaching the dog to endure pain. Wow, great job.
While the e-collar …
While the e-collar is definitely being used as a conditioned reinforcer, not as a punisher, this absolutely does not mean that it is not painful! The same demo has been done with lab rats. The shocks can be so strong that they will knock the rats off their feet, but because it is a marker to get the primary reinforcer they will continue to touch the target. I don’t see how this proves anything, all it does is show how powerful conditioned reinforcement is. Why not use a clicker!?
@SighsofmyLife: …
@SighsofmyLife: I’ve seen lot of similar reactions to dogs trained exclusively with clickers. Especially on their second training session with a certain exercise. I’ll keep working this for you and we’ll see how the dog’s understanding of the exercise changes.
@redsonja999: I …
@redsonja999: I would ask the same of using a clicker. If the food reward works so well, why use a clicker? My answer is the same.
Did you notice that …
Did you notice that once the collar was turned up to an 8, the pup showed a lot of conflict when it came to touching the stick? It wanted to touch to get the food, but started to want to avoid the shock. It would start to touch, then back off.
So the food is highly motivating to the dog. Why not just use the food as a previous commenter said? That gets rid of the conflict!
But I have a …
But I have a question…if the food reward worked so well (even, using your example, overcoming an aversive-i.e. the collar) …why not just use that and forget the collar? Much cheaper and more pleasant for the dog, yes?
Nice job proving the effectiveness of positive training, btw!!!
I really enjoyed …
I really enjoyed the information in this video, as well as watching that cute pup doing his thing! Give a whole new meaning to the thought process one goes through when they think of an “e-collar”!
exelent video, i’ve …
exelent video, i’ve been looking to see a video of you showing how you use the collar like this
thanx
Great stuff guys!!!
Great stuff guys!!!
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Great example …
Great example Ashton and Fred